Found on 1891 census, living with wife and 3 children, John jr. (36) the oldest is single, Farmer (employer) and head of the family, Frank (34), single and Elizabeth (39) single as the housekeeper, in Newtown.
He and his children were born in Newnham, nr Hook, Hampshire. His wife was born nearby in Bramley, Hampshire.
Also on 1861 census, then living in Newnham Green, where he is listed as farmer with 280 acres, employing 8 men and 3 boys.
Other children Samuel (3) and Rowland James (1) listed along with 3 other servants resident in the household (Sarah Kersley and Thomas and Matthew Hockly)